The Corona Virus is Killing the Pro Life Narrative
An honest "pro life" effort would have to embrace bigger government. Only more laws and enforcement dollars to stop preventable deaths would fit, "I'm for life." These would be laws and enforcement dollars for safety, sanitation and many other areas where deaths can be prevented. Then there is the general health component. More funds for free health care would save lives. Free health care of pregnant women and their would be so "pro life" it is baffling they are opposed by the same "pro life" Christian nationalists.
A comprehensive "pro life" package started slipping when right wing Protestant political operatives changed their position on abortion rights. Into the 1970's, leaders from all branches of Protestantism supported abortion rights. Endorsements of Roe included Jerry Falwell who spoke in favor of abortion rights. Gov. Ronald Reagan signed a very liberal abortion rights bill. Christianity Today had articles favoring abortion rights.
It was not until six years after Roe the fiscally conservative branch of U.S. politics merged with the Protestant Right and the Catholic Church to oppose abortion. Lower taxes, fewer regulations and no abortions were cobbled into one political package. They did not fit then, they don't fit today.
This odd marriage lived in the same house for 40 years. Many court cases and judicial appointments, however, could not stop abortions. Now the Corona virus has laid bare the choice between death and money. Opening the economy and schools and wearing masks has presented the choice between death and money in a way the public can comprehend. Fiscal conservatives have chosen more deaths.
The "pro life" flaw is now exposed for all to see.
It must be close to end times for Jon as the flurry of abortion postings is rapid and further left of left. Then again, it may just be his way of trying to get comments since many of his non-abortion articles get zero comments.
ReplyDeleteI'll help Jon out since I inspire many comments from the fish.
Another surefire way of knowing how desperate Jon is his use of the word "operative" or phrase "Bart Ehrman".
I'm both amused and flabbergasted on Jon's discovery of the 'smoking gun' of the entire pro-life movement, its supposed ties to Christian Nationalism (whatever that is), the coronavirus - er, Corona virus (is that a beer and a virus?), and all the other sticky links (in Jon's brain) to this conspiracy theory or another.
I tend to stay focused. The pro-life movement values human life from conception to natural death. It's not about big or small government, paying for everyone's health care, banning cars, banning airplanes, banning trains, banning pipelines, lower taxes or tin hats on cats. At its core, the pro-life movement is about protecting the lives of unborn babies, helping their mothers, helping their fathers, eliminating euthanasia and respecting the fundamental right to live.
Matt-- "I'm both amused and flabbergasted on Jon's discovery.. of the pro-life movement, its supposed ties to Christian Nationalism..."
DeleteThe political cabal of those trying to put "Biblical principles" into law, Christian Nationalism, goes back to slavery. It is largely a Protestant thing. If it had had abortion as one of its central planks from day one it would have expressed outrage at the time of Roe. It did not. Only after the current issues of that time did not seem to get them traction, states rights, prayer in school, etc., it test marketed anti abortion. Even though its leaders had already embraced Roe, they decided to go anti abortion.
The time line and public positions are all in newspapers and books.
The switcharoo happen about six years after Roe.
DeleteMore conflated words and silly argumentation. "political cabal", "christian nationalism".
DeleteWhen one talks about killing children in the womb, Jon always changes the subject.
What the subject? (1) christian nationalism, (2) political cabal, (3) biblical principles, (4) 1-cell 'things', (5) slavery, (6) operatives, (7) male-dominated, (8) screamers, (9) woman-haters, etc.
Jon's image today is about his obsession with traffic deaths, albeit a rung or two lower than his obsession with abortion and Christianity.
ReplyDeleteRegarding traffic deaths, Jon believes that it is hypocritic for us Christians to claim to be pro-life if we don't support lowering the speed limit to X mph so that Y more people would not be killed in year N. I'm surprised Jon thinks cars should be legal at all since some people die in car crashes. Some people get electrocuted every year so I guess we need to stop electrical generation altogether.
But perhaps his indignation isn't so great in those 2 areas since he loves to drive (or be driven), and likes houselights, TV and the Internet.
one thing that you can give Jon credit for. He is a master of the non sequitur.
DeleteUnknown "one thing you can give Jon credit for. He is the master of the non sequitur."
ReplyDeleteThere is one I haven't mastered. It goes like this: One fertilized cell is a human being. Therefore if it is killed there has been a murder.
Unknown--I read the non sequitur is often used in humor. That is why one of Monty Python's most popular comedy bits is "Every sperm is sacred."
ReplyDeleteThe Christian segment of US society would never take up arms unless in self-defense or a just war.
DeleteOn the other hand, we have the example of Mexico and the Cristero War of 1926-1929. There, the atheists and their "secular" government declared war on the Catholic Church, slaughtering priests and children. They lined them up against walls and shot them dead. They forbid clergy from saying Mass, administering the sacraments, wearing their clerical garb, i.e. simple black clothes with a Roman collar. They deported or executed foreign clergy.
Jon 1115. the non sequitur is often used as a comedy bit. so I suppose is just about any other known logical principle, any religion, any race or nationality Remember the old Pollock jokes. Or when I growing up we had quite a repertoire of Swede jokes. They were all stupid, just like Monty on sperm. so what does that say for you?
ReplyDeleteHere's another one: "I just hate the cancel culture. The the Book of Genesis God cancelled two people just because they ate an apple."
ReplyDeleteWhen you argue like a child, Jon, you should not expect adult arguments in return.
DeleteYou take the story of Adam and Eve and make it into a trivial event by a vengeful God.
That does nothing for your stated purpose of keeping Christian theology out of US laws.
Your childish argument is nothing more than a cheap shot at Christianity. This is your true life quest - just to be mean to people who are Christian. Being evil is, by definition, tempting people away from Jesus Christ. Your life sure seems to me to be dedicated to evil works.
Matt-- "Being evil is, by definition, tempting people away from Jesus Christ. You life sure seems to me to be dedicated to evil works."
ReplyDeleteActually, you arguments are the ones of a child. A majority of the world's population does not believe in Jesus or any part of Christianity. That majority is made up of ordinary people who are not evil or "dedicated to evil works."
Your insistence that people who do not believe as you are evil is a passion to control anyone and everyone around you. It is a trait attributed to what is commonly called Christian Nationalism.
I said nothing about anyone but you.
DeleteChanging the subject is your favorite tactic, as if people can't see through it. Your mind skips from one disconnected thought to a disconnected conjecture to an evil conclusion.
Matt-- "I said nothing about anyone but you."
ReplyDeleteI mentioned in an earlier post Monty Python and their Christian parody bit, "Every Sperm is Sacred." I'm glad you had no objection to that, had a good laugh at the Catholic faith I hope.