An American Narrative: The Poor Should Lift Themselves Up

There is really no on-going debate about how to stop the growing rate of suicides and drug overdoses. A common explanation for Trump's election was the unexpectedly large turnout of low income rural people in crucial states. Since his election, the plight that demographic has gotten worse, not better.

A New York Times expose about an Oregon family illustrates the problem. Most of a large family has died of suicide, alcoholism and drug over doses. The family's story is supported by national statistics. The growing number of these deaths have been labeled, "Deaths of despair." Some segments of society have seen their lives improving, people of color and women, but this one has seen no improvement or slippage.

We all know income inequality has been increasing. What measures are within political reach that might make this segment of society view their lot more optimistically than it does now?

One that has been talked to death and made some progress is healthcare. Government funded health care made progress with Obama and a Democratic Party congress. The irony is that the demographic who would most benefit from this was the one who supported Trump and has been most harmed by him and his supporters in Congress. It is somewhat common for voters to vote against their own interest but this one is remarkable.

We could learn from Canada. It has the same rural to urban migration as the U.S. But it has some kind of cultural difference that is more down to earth than ours. It has more subsidy of health care and more aggressive government efforts to retrain its labor force. According to the link, Canada has been more successful that the U.S. at dealing with the social changes of recent decades.

To be more successful, the U.S. electorate will need to select a President and Congress that will save lives in the demographic now experiencing suicides and mental illnesses.


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  1. God down. Alcohol, drugs, suicide, and depression, up. Just an observation.

    And yes, there needs to be more done for individuals and the systemic continuance at all levels. county, state, and national. Counseling, training, rehab, moving from bad influences,

    I've lived long enough to have seen disfunctional families have children that moved away, and became very successful, and the ones that remained carried on the family tradition. Now, we have apartment complexes full of up to three generations of disfunctionals. that have moved in, some from the cities. some out of state, Virtually no fathers, many children. Schools are very good, activities provided Everyone is in attendance at social services, food shelf, housing support, and food stamps. Social workers / counselors are well staffed, and over loaded. Only two old men attend a church. Not being judgmental, but honest observation. One day going to the grocery store, there was a young mother crying in the parking lot. I stopped and asked if there was something I could do for her. She said she had maxed out all her food sources, and couldn't feed her son. At that time the churches were in charge of food shelf, and I suggested she talk to pastor xxx ,(Not mine, they rotated responsibilities), she said she didn't believe in God, but was a Wiccan. and used meth. I gave her 20.00 to tide her over till she qualified for more help in a couple days. She was from California. After I bought a couple things, I drove around the block and saw her enter the local watering hole, where a regular sold meth under the table. He has since died. How much bread and peanut butter can you buy after getting meth with 20.00

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  2. To Helper--I have not destroyed your post because I think it is good. I don't agree with the premise of church, but I'd like to post it--I await your permission.

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    1. Not a premise of the church. Just an honest observation. A rare few have sent their kids to vacation Bible school. The comment made by mothers is; "A good day care for a couple weeks, with free lunch." One would hope something would sink in, but without parental encouragement, not much can be expected.

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    2. Thanks for sharing those observations. As fewer in that demographic attend church the question arises as to why. Is it because they are in bad circumstances and don't get from the church what they expected, i.e., "the good life"? Or, are they in bad circumstances because they don't believe and their bad fortunes are punishment?

      The prosperity gospel is preached in some churches, "pray and you will prosper." In more subtle churches its, "God hears your prayers." I think the latter carries with it an unspoken message that if God hears your prayers something good will come of it.

      Every week it seems the news carries a story about someone who prayed and their cancer disappeared or they lived through a plane crash. However, if a woman has several kids, can't work because day care is too expensive, is constantly under stress and prays for something better daily but nothing better ever comes along, she may wisely conclude praying and church is a waste of her time.

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    3. Re. "prosperity", or "If God hears your prayers something good will come. Both of them relate to prosperity of some kind.
      We propose none of the above. " Not my will, but thine"
      Ever hear the song; "I thank God for unanswered prayer?".

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    4. Jon @ 11;04 re. "or are they in bad circumstances because they don't believe and their bad fortunes are punishment?" I don't believe that is even close to truth. Punishment/ no. Result of; yes. If they have no faith, how could they think punishment, (from God) I have reasons to believe they simply accept their fate as normal. You must remember, much of this is generational, They know no other. Sad to say. And then there is the situation of absent fathers, and I'm not talking husbands. For true example, a mother with three boys. Three different fathers. All absent. An example of the four V's; Viggle it in, Viggle it out, Vipe off, and Vamoose. And there sits the mother. Full time mother, no part time work.

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    5. Helper "You must remember much of this is generational...absent fathers..."

      I agree. I'm skeptical we can ever eliminate absent fathers. The first question is, what is our society (it's government) doing about this? It is doing a few things, food stamps, some housing, etc. What could it do? It could resolve to break this generational pattern by more housing, better schools, etc.

      Here, however, we need to be careful about generalizations not supported by facts. The majority of people receiving welfare at any moment are not "generational" or "permanently" on welfare. A large majority of those receiving welfare, food stamps, etc. receive them temporarily and move on to jobs and out of the system. They spend most of their lives paying taxes that fund welfare not receiving it. Every time I would tell my Economics 101 classes this in the section on government I would see angry looking faces around the room. Some do not like to hear facts.

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    6. Jon @ 6'43 I've known many of those families, and their histories. With the exception of children who left, the problem IS mostly generational. Fact. I emphasize "mostly".

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    7. Helper "I've known many of these families...the problem IS mostly generational. Fact. I emphasize 'mostly'"

      I have know so many such families as well. I've seen generational. That you and I have seen this does not change statistics on people receiving welfare. The large majority of welfare recipients receive for relatively brief periods. The generational problem is real.

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  3. The Cuban/Venezuelan/Chinese/Russian Narrative: The Poor Should Thank Us for Socialism Keeping Them Alive

    Seriously, the USA is the worst nation on earth ... except for all the others.

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  4. I prayed for wealth. God gave me poverty with the ability to lift me out of poverty.
    I prayed for patience. God gave me situations which try my patience so I could practice patience.
    I prayed for health. God gave me sickness and infirmity. But he also gave me doctors.
    I prayed for humility. God humbled me so I could practice humility.
    I prayed for honesty. God provided me opportunities for dishonesty so I might practice honesty.
    I prayed for Trump. God has guided Trump to do very good things for the world.
    I prayed for Jon L. God is calling Jon L through avenues Jon may not admit.
    I prayed for .... God answered but not in ways I was expecting.

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  5. Matt--Some of this seemed like cut and paste, not allowed here. I'll let it by this time.

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  6. Matt "Incorrect. Just my thoughts."

    Your "thoughts" are so similar to the "thoughts" of others I had the impression they were the same.

    https://www.facebook.com/tabernacleofprayer.penal/posts/291919634171821

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    1. These things are similar because Christian theology is widespread and unified in SOME areas.

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