Women Clergy and the Accomplishments of Young Women
A recent study and book on the topic show that young girls who attend churches where women are pastors have a more positive outlook and move on to more college and careers than those who experience only male pastors.
I think it is a wonderful thing when young girls do not see roadblocks, real or imagined, in front of them. That there are Christian denominations which do not prevent women from becoming pastors is a modern development that is a credit to both the faith and those particular branches.
Any denomination that declares certain classes of people are unfit to serve as clergy is a denomination in decline. Blocking women and gays from the pulpit is no different than saying black people cannot be pastors as was the case in the old Southern Baptist Convention.
It was not until 1995 that the SBC renounced it racists past. Now, almost 25 years later the Christian denominations which segregate against women have yet to renounce that practice.
I would recommend that any parent of either boys or girls to attend a church that does not discriminate by gender or skin color who can serve clergy.
As to the role of female pastors on ambitions of young women, I would be a bit cautious in interpreting data showing women pastors are the reason more young women attend college. It could be that parents who themselves encourage their daughters to attend college also are attracted toward churches with women as pastors and the cause of women attending college was incorrectly attributed to pastors.
Jesus chose only men for the priesthood. Take up your argument with him.
ReplyDeleteAs for homosexuals, again, take that issue up with him. He is against that chosen behavior as he is against many classes of heterosexual behavior.
Face it, Jon, Jesus Christ is the thorn in your side.
Matt 5:40 "Jesus chose only men for the priesthood...As for homosexuals...He is against that chosen behavior..."
ReplyDeleteNo one really know whether those statements are true or not. No author in the Bible claimed to have been present when Jesus was said to have lived.
Those who speculated on what Jesus thought or said wrote down what they wanted him to have said. Authors of the Bible, original and later scribes who edited, wanted Jesus' followers to be men but had no objection to homosexuality. You are free to make up whatever you wish.
wow, free thinking is so tilted on your political point of view. If women head the church, Christianity is an ok thing. When will women head the Muslim church, write about sometimes (you need to take a long break)
DeleteAnonymous 6:30 "When will women head the Muslim church, write about it sometime"
DeleteGood point. Parts of Christianity and Islam share a desire to prevent women from powerful roles. Other religions share it as well. Then there are those that are about empowering women.
"No one really knows whether those statements are true or not." Let's see, the apostles were Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Paul, Andrew, James, Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas, etc. No Helen, Naomi, Rosemary, etc. Get it? Are the Marcils that cheap that they couldn't find a religious bigot to write for them that actually knows something about the subject matter?
DeleteI'm surprised you're not quoting Bart Ehrman.
As for homosexuality, did you research the Catholic Church teaching on homosexuality and from whence it derives? I didn't think so. And how does the Church arrive at the positions of Christ if it is not explicit enough in the Bible for Jon Lindgren?
Women are empowered by the Holy Trinity in their goal, identical to men, of spending an eternity in Heaven. Nothing else matters. God has ordained different roles for men and women. That doesn't fit your "I am woman, hear me roar" mentality in 2018 but I'm banking on the fact God knew what he was doing when the rules got laid down. God's treatment of marriage and the responsibilities of man and woman are so different. I'll let you research it and get back to us.
DeleteMatt Noah can troll all he wants, but if he read any of the holy books of the god of Abraham he would immediately see that god is a misogynist (and a homophobe, and advocate of homicide, fratricide, infanticide, fetuscide, etc.).
DeleteI don't know why anybody would advocate that children read the bible given its graphic sex and violence. Better just to tell them from the pulpit that god loves you!
I am confused, sort of. If these are "holy books", then you must believe what comes from them are holy. Yet, you rattle off a list of all things you consider unholy. Which is it?
ReplyDeleteIt could just be that you, like Jon, have a problem with Jesus Christ, not Matt Noah. So, take it up with the boss.
Evil must be confronted where it exists. What Jon writes is evil. He adds little to the public good. Even when he is correct in pointing out the evils of clergy abuse or cover-up, he does nothing more than try to fan the flames of hate against priests and bishops. The only good thing you will hear him write about a Catholic priest is when they disobey the Church. Even Catholics like myself take issue with the sins of priests but not the priesthood. Everyone sins; some more seriously than others.
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